More on Charlie Rose and the Mentally Ill Brain

In an episode of the Charlie Rose Show a psychiatrist at Columbia University named Jeffery Lieberman suggested that "antipsychotic" drugs are neuroprotective agents that might in some way protect against a neurodegenerative process. Robert Whitaker believes this to be an idea that's taking hold and in this post tries to find scientific grounds for this idea. I have to say it's an extremely disturbing idea if you've ever been exposed to some quacks neuroprotection or if you think you might be any time in the future. It's something I'd like to comment more about on this weblog.

During the show Eric Kandel gave a brief history of psychiatry since Hippocrates, the great Greek Physician of 5th century who spoke of depression and manic psychosis and indicated they were medical illness. This is something he did indeed:

Men ought to know that from the brain and from the brain only arise our pleasures, joys, laughter and jests... Those who are mad through phlegm are quiet, and neither shout nor make a disturbance; those maddened through bile are noisy, evil-doers, and restless, always doing something inopportune.

Hippocrates

What you have in the 5th century is almost exactly like what you have today in modern psychiatry. What you have is the bio-medical reductionism you'll find today and if you substitute serotonin for phlegm and dopamine for bile you pretty much have modern theories for psychiatric illnesses. So mentioning Hippocrates was very relevant for viewers of Charlie Rose show, it puts modern day theories in historical context for them.

Eric Kandel goes on with his brief history describing beliefs about the mad during medieval times and the emergence of moral therapy mentioning Philippe Pinel. He ends his short story with one of the 'grandfathers' of modern day psychiatry, Emil Kraeplin.

Emil Kraeplin was the first quack to do things that resemble modern day psychiatry. One of which was compiling symptom checklists and apply a label after showing that people have the symptoms on the checklist. His symptom checklist consisted of 36 groups of psychic symptoms and 19 types of bodily symptoms. Diagnosing illness with these checklists resulted in his patients being placed in what are called dysjunctive categories. Two different patients could have the same diagnostic label and have two completely different sets of symptoms. This is something that continues in modern day psychiatry with the schizophrenia label. To receive a diagnosis of schizophrenia today using the symptom checklist found in the DSM-IV you need two of five symptoms -- hallucinations, delusions, disorganized speech, grossly disorganized or catatonic behavior, and negative symptoms. There are 15 ways two people can be labeled with schizophrenia and have nothing in common under the 1994 DSM-IV's criteria for schizophrenia. He also placed people in categories based on outcomes. He claimed that dementia preacox was a chronic degenerative illness that people didn't recover from. When they did they were placed in the other category. Making the whole thing really really silly. It's so much like modern day psychiatry, 110 years ago!

A very important figure and his insights were not included in Eric Kandels brief history. That figure was a French psychiatrist named Pierre Deniker and his serendipitous discovery that the drug chlorpromazine sent mental patients into what he described as hibernation. A state that caused his patients to become apathetic and indifferent to their surroundings. A state where his patients were still experiencing symptoms but were just less interested in them. He believed that the drugs medically induced a brain disease that ameliorated the effects of patients naturally occurring illness. He observed that the medically induced brain disease he inflicted on his patients had striking similarities to lethargic encephalitis. He found the drugs reproduced all the symptoms of lethargic encephalitis and thought that it would be possible to cause true encephalitis epidemics with the new drugs. His discovery began a pharmacological revolution in psychiatry.

Recently, 58 years after Pierre Deniker's history making discovery we have Columbia University's Jeffery Lieberman discussing neural circuits on the Charlie Rose show. What's known now that wasn't know when Pierre Deniker made his discovery is that chlorpromazine acted on the neural circuits that Jeffery Lieberman talks about. In the 1950's the effects of these drugs were described as a chemical lobotomy. In the 1960's psychiatry's view of the drugs began to change. During that period what Sheldon Gelman describes in his book Medicating Schizophrenia as a "new vision of medication" took hold. This occurred after a study conducted by the National Institute of Mental Health in 1964. The studies authors thought that agents like chlorpromazine should be regarded as "antischizophrenic" agents because they reduced the symptoms their patients displayed. After this antischizophrenic or antipsychotic idea took hold it became associated with a theory of how the medication worked. It was later found the medication acted on a neurotransmitter called dopamine. Since the medication was antipsychotic and it had an effect on dopamine levels the medication was theorized to work by correcting an imbalance of the neurotransmitter dopamine. Following that line of reasoning the drugs are correcting the neurochemical cause of schizophrenia. Further along that line of reasoning the drug is halting a degenerative disease process by correcting the neurochemical cause of schizophrenia. That's the very same line of reasoning that Jeffery Lieberman is following 46 years after the NIMH collaborative study when he talks about a lack of treatment leading to a progression of the illness. The drugs used in his practice aren't very much different than the ones used in 1964. They're a little cleaner, meaning they bind to targeted receptors more specifically while producing pretty much the same effect. The difference is analogous to the use of something resembling a surgical instrument rather than something like an ice pick taken from a psychiatrists bar to perform a lobotomy.

I'm sure psychiatrists would prefer to be seen as circuit fixers and not brain disease inflicters. No one would want to go see some horrible quack who inflicted brain disease like dysfunction, misery, sickness, horror and death on people. Psychiatrists would be disliked, would they not?

In Peter Breggins book Brain-Disabling Treatments in Psychiatry he argues that psychiatric therapies continue to be the type of brain disabling therapies employed by Deniker.

08/25/2010 - Link

Controlling What You Think

They're attacking me for being an activist. People are just too brainwashed and naive to understand that. The psycho-pharmaceutical industry makes big money on very harmful drugs. They have to keep people brainwashed about mental health issues so they keep taking psychiatric drugs. For a bit of insight into how an organization like a drug company might identify an activist you can look to one of the books written by a public relations expert that works doing public relations for the drug industry. A really interesting book is Denise Deegan's book Managing Activism. Here's a passage:

One of the benefits of quantitative research is that in investigating opinions it is possible to identify the public likely to become activists. This can be done by adapting Grunig's situational theory. This identifies three types of public, namely, latent, aware and active. The latent public does not recognize a situation as problematic. When it recognizes a problem it becomes aware. It becomes active when organises to do something about the problem.

Psychiatry and psychiatric drugs are extreamly problematic. It's about keeping people unaware of the problem so they don't do anything about it. I know for a fact that the folks at Eli Lilly and Company are aware of my desire to make people aware of the problematic nature of their products. It's no secret that I want to point out how problematic those psychiatric quacks are.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation conducted an extreamly effective program to neutralize activism in the 1960's called COINTELPRO. The very same tactics are being used. It's logical for me to assume that they're doing what they're doing to neutralize me as an activist threat. While doing that they committed a number of criminal and civil wrongs that they probably want to evade taking responsibility for. I'll just assume that, nobody likes getting sued or being put in prison for long periods of time. Unless of course they're truly filled with remorse over what they've done. They're the same tactics, have a look at Frank Donner's book The Age of Surveillance. Another book worth checking out is Jim Redden's Snitch Culture.

The things being said about me are untrue. They're being said by people involved in a crime against me. I am not making any comments about performing oral sex on anyone at all. It's malign slander and sexual harassment. I'd advise anyone approached by someone claiming that I said something about them not to tell them anything sexual about me or themselves. They're attacking me. They can use the information against you and me. They can attack me and if you in some way become problematic they can use the information to attack you. They'd fuck you to say some vicious thing about me. Anyone getting into any sexual business of mine isn't a friend of mine.

08/22/2010 - Link

Charlie Rose and the "Mentally Ill Brain"

On a recent PBS television show Columbia University's Jeffery Lieberman presented a series of brain scans of persons with schizophrenia which showed enlarged ventricles due to a loss of grey matter. Lieberman suggested that people labeled as schizophrenic have a degenerative brain disease. Robert Whitaker checks the scientific literature to see if this idea is well grounded in science on the Mad in America Blog. His post is here.

In the same program Jeffery Lieberman starts talking about what's really a hypothesis formed the same way the serotonin hypothesis of depression was formed. It's presented to the audience as fact, supposedly grounded in science. Jeffery Lieberman from the transcripts:

These stresses cause a dysfunction of these neural circuits which is result in the dysregulation of the chemicals that Elyn was referring to, but in this case involving dopamine. And this stimulation becomes excessive and leads to the psychotic symptoms that Elyn was experiencing, the hallucinations, the delusions in the brain.

This is what's called the dopamine hypothesis. Psychiatry claims the neuroleptic drugs reduce the symptoms of psychosis, that they're anti-schizophrenic. The drugs disrupt the functioning of the neural circuits Jeffery Lieberman is talking about. So what they did is reason that the dopamine circuits are over active, then go on to claim they fixed something disrupting the functioning of those circuits. If you follow the line of reasoning that led to the hypothesis you can go on to reason that the drugs halt a degenerative disease by fixing the schizophrenic dopamine circuits that cause the disease. Is there any real scientific evidence to support this hypothesis apart from the claim that the drugs are antipsychotic in nature? The answer is no.

The show also got into the genetics of schizophrenia and bi-polar disorder. Early in the program Eric Kendal mentioned that it's beginning to emerge that some of the genes are shared by the two illness. The evidence for this claim is most likely taken from family studies like this one. Keep in mind no schizophrenia or bi-polar genes were identified. It's evidence taken from family studies that suffer from the methodological flaws that would cause an investigator to turn to studies of identical twins. Stephen Warren goes on to talk about genetics later in the program. He mentions the the 50% concordance rate taken from studies of identical twins. This 50% concordance rate is disputed by Jay Joseph in his book The Gene Illusion.

08/18/2010 - Link

Stalking in Syracuse

I still have a situation with surveillance, slander and harassment here in Syracuse. There has never at anytime been any consent to any form of surveillance. If there is anyone with audio or video recordings of me they were made completely without any consent from me. Any surveillance being conducted where I live is completely without my consent. It's something I want prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. It would be criminal. It's something criminal being done by someone I want no contact with, someone stalking me. Someone with absolutely no legal right to do anything but leave me alone. What's being said about me is coming from someone committing a crime, a stalker. It's something I've said over and over again on this weblog.

I think the person responsible might be some kind of sick fucking psycho. Whoever it is is making false accusations because he associates his thoughts with me. Whoever is making the accusations is doing it malignly. I think this person might be running around claiming that I think I have magical powers or that something gave me magical powers. There's nothing for the accuser to base that accusation on. I've never had any beliefs like that so it couldn't have been based on anything I've ever said to anyone. The accusation is purely based on the accusers own thoughts. They couldn't possibly have anything to do with anything else. The accusations are malign. These accusations were made after the accuser realized that what I believed might have something to do with archetypes. They're malign false accusations that involve projection. It happens over and over again. This person is someone I want nothing to do with. It's someone who should be minding his/her own business in a prison some where. It's someone I want fully prosecuted.

08/4/2010 - Link

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